Philosopher Alex O'Connor sits down with a Mormon apologist to hear the case for the defense. After three hours, the case turns out to be more interesting than expected—which is not the same thing as convincing.

Every religion makes extraordinary claims. What makes Mormonism singular is that it was founded in 19th-century America, which means we have the receipts—the court records, the newspaper accounts, the DNA sequencing. And once the receipts exist, you cannot soft-delete the past.